Watch An Elite Golfer Demonstrate Role Of Athleticism In Distance Gains
/For those insisting athletes and not engineers have done the heavy lifting over the last 20 years...
When you come to think of it that is the secret of most of the great holes all over the world. They all have some kind of a twist. C.B. MACDONALD
For those insisting athletes and not engineers have done the heavy lifting over the last 20 years...
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— Jonathan Yarwood (@JonathanYarwood) May 7, 2018
Thanks to reader Chuck for spotting Robert Blumenthal's Golf Conversation with longtime Oakmont and Seminole professional Bob Ford, who covers a range of topics.
But given that he's been associated with two classic courses, the comments by Ford related to distance and the ball stand out.
GC: Speaking of Jack, Tiger has come out for scaling back the distance of the golf ball for the pros. The head of Bridgestone Golf said the same thing yesterday.
BF: For the elite game? I would tell you that in the last three months, Iâve never heard more comments about it and more people are getting on the bandwagon to do it. Mike Davis is a member here. Heâs like, âMy goal [by the end of] my career here is to get the ball rolled back.â So I would be very surprised if it doesnât roll back.
So there's that. And more.
GC: Do you think anyone understands what âbifurcationâ means?
(laughter)
BF: I hope so. Itâs been a bad word. I donât quite know how theyâre gonna do it. You and I donât want our ball to go shorter, we know that. Believe it or not, they have developed a golf ball that at our speed, it doesnât change. At the speed of 108 or more miles an hour, it starts to go down.
I just want to see this supposed ball in action. In our lifetimes. Once.
Or, maybe roll them out at the Crump Cup or the Hugh Wilson or some other old school event and get some feedback?
I was tipped to this new golf interview podcast with an emphasis on growing the game, but the discussions cover everything and make for very enjoyable listening. Paul Casey's episode was taped pre-Masters but is still an engaging listen about a nice array of topics, including Augusta National's architecture.
The R&A's Martin Slumbers goes into far more depth than normal, though he stops short of expressing his views on distance. The R&A Chief does, however, express his view that most architecture is too difficult for the every day game and has some excellent thoughts on some remedies. Though he's also very determined to see every club have WiFi for the kids so they can look at their phones.
Check out Hugh Marr's Talking Golf wherever you listen to podcasts.
For anyone with an interest in growing the game of golf the latest Talking Golf Podcast is well worth a listen. Hear Martin Slumbers of @RandA talk about where he sees the future of golf. https://t.co/ka9CFTfMqE
— Hugh Marr (@hughmarr) May 1, 2018
Frank Nobilo talks to Golf Australia's John Huggan about a range of topics, but his comments about fearing for the health of golf due to cost, length and a growing divide between professional and amateur games. He wants to slow down the ball.
That sense of connection is always mentioned by anti-bifurcation types looking to protect the golf ball, yet all playing the same ball the divide is growing. Nobilo sees and doesn't like the lost connection, which he even sees between the most recent generation of greats and today's major winners.
We have equipment that is really designed for the recreational player, but which produces unhealthy distance for the elite players. I remember playing in pro-ams and occasionally being out-driven by an amateur. Now that never happens. Now the pros hit their 5-irons past the amateurâs drives.
The professional game has never been more divorced from the amateur game. I think that is extremely dangerous. Iâm not one for bifurcation though. One of the beauties of the game should be that everyone can play. But if we went to different equipment we would lose that. The game wouldnât be what it is supposed to be.
As with most people, it all goes back to the Old Course...
When they started messing with the Old Course at St. Andrews and adding yardage, the R&A lost me. Can you imagine if the All England Club did that to Wimbledon and made the centre court smaller so that the game would be more difficult? In tennis they slowed the ball down. I think we need to do the same in golf.
I know many people do not place value on this, though it's never for a reason beyond personal financial gain:
I am amazed when I go to Wentworth now for the BMW PGA Championship. It isnât the course I remember playing. So any comparison between now and then has been lost. Martin Kaymer, for example, should be able to compare himself with Bernhard Langer. But he canât. He isnât playing the same game or the same courses.
As the Houston Open tries to remain on the PGA Tour schedule where it's been since 1946, Golf Club of Houston is out as the host venue.
The Houston Business Journal's Jack Witthaus reports on the potential move to the downtown muni going forward. (A Memorial Park change in operator to the Houston Golf Association has been proposed.)
The move to Memorial Park would return the PGA Tour to a course it last played in 1963. Even if no sponsor is found for 2018, let's hope this leads to a long term goal of saving the event and carrying on the Houston Golf Association's efforts to refurbish the Houston city courses.
With the WGC match play having left we don't often get the pleasure of reading Greg Hansen these days, and his latest is by no means uplifting. Still, Hansen bids farewell to Blanchard Golf Course in first class fashion, with no shortage of important points about the role courses like it have played in producing golfers and as a landing spot for veterans or First Tee graduates who go on to careers in golf.
With Arizona's skyrocketing costs and the courses's place behind Air Force base gates, even an increase in annual rounds and improved maintenance could not stop the 56-year-old course from going under. Sitting next to an airplane boneyard, Blanchard is now less than two weeks from shutting down for good.
Itâs sad, because Blanchard is what the old Randolph South course used to be: flat and friendly. You could walk BGC in 3Âœ hours, eat a reasonably priced hot dog at the soon-to-close Eagles Nest restaurant, and not lose a sleeve of golf balls in a wash or the desert or anywhere.
Golfâs demise in the 21st century was triggered because the game is too difficult, too expensive and too time-consuming. Blanchard was a step back to the 1970s.
So now the 56-year-old golf course will be repurposed as a recreation area and forgotten.
A few days ago, Moreno played in a group with former Blanchard âcart kidsâ Sean Mullen and Brent Lingel, who went on to become golf pros in Tucson and in Texas, and now run Tucsonâs Rolling Hills Golf Course.
âIt was a memorable day, and in fact we made it 27 holes because we didnât want it to end,â Mullen said. âI grew up at Blanchard. It was my first job and basically my second home. My dad, J.J., still works there. I have nothing but positive memories.â
GolfDigest.com's Mike Stachura reports on Arccos data of more than 10 million drives suggesting that average golfers have seen flat or declining distances since 2015.
Stachura queries some industry types to understand why all of the Hot List winners might not be delivering distance. There is Nick Clearwater at Golftec, who naturally wants more people to get better fittings from places like...Golftec. But Clearwater also says this about lightweight clubs actually working against the average golfer:
âThe average golfer uses too much spin loft with all of their clubs, so increases in tech still show minimal improvement in the quality of the shot,â he said. âThe shots still start to the right, spin too much, and are mishit.
âThere is not much equipment/ball can help with. Also, as much as clubhead tech has improved, shafts are getting lighter and longer from the OEMs and the consistency of the strike is compromised as a result.â
This regarding the disparity between pros and amateurs would be fun to contrast with twenty years ago:
The Arccos research also provided data on average 7-iron distance across age groups and handicaps. The overall 7-iron average was 143.3 yards, compared to 172 yards for a PGA Tour player as measured by Trackman. That data suggests average golfers are playing a dramatically different game than elite tour players. Combining the average golferâs driver and 7-iron you get a 364-yard par 4. That might be 120 yards or more shorter than how a PGA Tour player might play a driver, 7-iron hole.
Having made the case that today's equipment rules are being circumvented by elite players via fitting, while making clear the data is pointing to little game improvement for average players, it's hardly a call to go out and shop. A good fitting yes, but shopping?
So long story short, average golfers might not be getting better, but they clearly have the potential.
Click on the following links to shop the latest drivers Dick's Sporting Goods and Golf Galaxy.
It's not often you get hard data telling you what you've bought is failing you, followed by links to buy clubs.
Ironically the piece is a fantastic case for bifurcation where equipment rules can be adjusted to help the average golfer, while making clear we need to tighten up a few loose bolts for the pros.
Titleist ambassador and former FedExCup champion Billy Horschel repeatedly takes the company talking points on the distance issue, so it was no surprise to see him call on architects to do more "great-designed" work instead of changing equipment to breathe new (old) life into architecture.
From this week's After Further Review from Rex Hoggard, which is incidentally followed by an item on how fun it is to watch Brooke Henderson drive the ball despite her small frame.
First, in Horschel's world, he's hoping we get driver-killing "great-designed" courses so the golf ball is not restricted, ensuring on-going payments to his and other golf pro accounts:
"I think the architects in today's game should come here and understand what this course is and why it's still challenging,â Billy Horschel said. â Too much nowadays we're playing big, wide-open courses that really aren't great designed golf courses.â
If architects could import massive overhanging trees that restrict ball flight they might, but it's kind of hard to do that these days. Nor advisable on a number of levels, most notably because there is a desire by many to see the driver remain an important weapon. And even better, to see width presented to provide options off the tee.
All of this makes the second After Further Review item by Ryan Lavner more fun. He writes about the joys of LPGA winner Brooke Henderson and the skill on display as she uses a 48-inch driver.
Or perhaps itâs because she uses a 48-inch driver, drawing every little bit of distance out of her 5-foot-4 frame. She swings freely and aggressively, aims at flags even when sheâs nursing a narrow lead and rolls in enough putts to contend in all of the big events.
The 20-year-old Canadian smashes every conceivable stereotype about the LPGA â in no ways a dink-and-dunker who relies on a hot putter. Thereâs no one in the womenâs game Iâd rather watch play.
Sadly, the folks who want to combat distance through Harbour Town-style architecture do not appreciate how the ability to use driver in separating fields has been a cornerstone of the sport for a few centuries now.
Harbour Town is swell and all once a year, but narrow plod-fests that minimize the driver are not the model for the game. Particularly when the message is driven by corporate talking points from folks who've already made millions. "Great-designed" courses are not narrow, tree-lined and light on strategic decisions.
Just a reminder that the world's best somehow managed to play The Masters without green reading books and yardage books feature grade-adjusted yardages.
Sun did the whole rise from the east, set in the west thing each day.
Players had to play by the club's rules and all still showed up. File that away.
As Karen Crouse writes for the New York Times, some of today's best even prefer the freedom to play
Away from Augusta, competitors typically use two books, one with tee-to-green details for each hole and the other, which often has a price tag, focused solely on the greens. The Masters provides a single one, at no cost, that covers both elements, offering rudimentary information. It is left to the caddies and the players to do their own legwork and fill in the blanks. In that respect, the Augusta National book is like the course itself, designed to reward those with the most creativity, imagination and discipline.
âI like it that way,â said Michael Greller, who caddies for Jordan Spieth, the 2015 champion. âIt rewards people who put the work in.â
Here are the nuts and bolts of Chairman Fred Ridley's comments on the distance issue, which included some prepared remarks and some responses to questions.
As I write for Golfweek, however, this was a momentous day for new chairman Ridley and Augusta National. Because while other chairmen have invoked the words and philosophy of Jones and MacKenzie as a barometer, Ridley took things to another level in saying that the best hole in tournament golf and the best par-5 on the planet, no longer functions as the architects intended.
The entirety of his most detailed comments in response to a question from Golf World's Ryan Herrington.
Q. You mentioned that you've had -- you've got encouragement from the governing bodies and other golf organizations about the feedback you've provided to them -- or on the distance issue. What has that feedback been, and have you asked them specifically to explore any certain aspects of the distance issue as it pertains to the play of the tournament here?
CHAIRMAN FRED S. RIDLEY: Well, as I mentioned, we do have an open dialog. I'm very familiar with the public statements that have been made recently. You know, our focus initially is on our golf course. We are intent on making sure that we maintain the design philosophy that Mr. Jones and Alister MacKenzie devised. And with the shot values that they thought were important, we have done what we felt was appropriate through the years to maintain that philosophy and that design, those design parameters.
There's a great quote from Bobby Jones dealing specifically with the 13th hole, which has been lengthened over time, and he said that the decision to go for the green in two should be a momentous one. And I would have to say that our
observations of these great players hitting middle and even short irons into that hole is not a momentous decision.
And so we think there is an issue, not only there, but in the game generally, that needs to be addressed. The ultimate decision is going to be, I'm confident, a collective one. It's going to be one where all of the stakeholders sit down and come to some agreement.
From our perspective, we will always do what's necessary to maintain the integrity of our golf course. But as I said in my comments, I don't think that's the only approach to this. So my hope is that every organization, every stakeholder involved will look at this issue from a holistic basis and not only what might be in the best interests of their own organization.
We fully appreciate and want-- do not want any action to be taken that's going to make golf harder. We have an obligation to grow the game, and so we're sensitive to that. So these issues don't always coincide. And like any difficult question, it requires compromise and debate. So as long as we're all talking to one another and looking out for what's in the best interest of the game, I'm confident that there's going to be a solution that's going to work for everyone.
A wise friend says the distance discussion should only be predicated on one barometer: the Old Course. If it is obsolete for the elite player, distance limits or something should be done to keep it relevant.
So it was enlightening to see Paul Azinger suggest the Old Course at St. Andrews is in trouble within this Steve DiMeglio piece about Augusta National and distance.
There is of course the usual shallow stuff from golf pros looking to protect their corporate interests over how the game is played, with Billy Horschel reinforcing his steadfast ignorance and Brandt Snedeker suggesting Augusta just plant a tree, ramp up the Sub-Air and call it a day.
But Azinger's comments stood out since the R&A might actually feel the same way.
âThe Old Course at St Andrews, the home of golf, is different, because the course isnât as long and the greens are pretty easy to putt and donât have nearly as much slope,â Azinger said. âAugustaâs greens are frightfully fast, and they can stick the pins two paces from the edge.
âAugusta can always be defended. St Andrews is in trouble.â
Year three of the WGC Dell Technologies Match Play is in the books and while there is still quibbling over the format, this is very much a PGA Tour success story combining course, sponsor and operations to make a tricky venue work.
As I explain in this Golfweek item with news on the future, the Austin vibe that has been embraced by this event should extend in the tournament's charitable giving.
Having attended the Save Muny party Friday night, it's apparent that the sense of community in Austin would embrace a one or two-year donation of charitable proceeds to saving Lions Municipal. This is not to suggest the tournament's current beneficiaries aren't find charities, but given how many golf courses are under siege in the United States and how consistently the Five Families have passed at opportunities to help them survive as genuine "grow the game" facilities, wouldn't it be fun to see Muny saved by tourney proceeds?
Charity is at the heart of the PGA Tour!
Here's a good background story on the proposal and pleas from Ben Crenshaw.
Some images from Friday night's fundraiser hosted by the good folks at Criquet Shirts.
Dustin Johnson hit a 489-yard driving during his round 3, 2018 WGC Dell Match Play face-off with Kevin Kisner (eventually losing the match 4&3).
As Rex Hoggard explains for GolfChannel.com, the drive does not count as the longest in PGA Tour history because the Match Play records are not included. But remember, the numbers at non-major venues, and non-match play venues are flat so these more athletic players today are not hitting it longer except when they are.
DJ went long. REAL LONG.
— PGA TOUR (@PGATOUR) March 23, 2018
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Statistics do not officially count in this event. But the longest drive on TOUR in the ShotLink era (2003) is 476 yards by @Love3d. pic.twitter.com/EHgMscMhdt
Rod Morri, Mike Clayton and yours truly caught professional golfer Zac Blair before he was off to go play to talk the distance debate and various architecture subjects.
Thanks to Zac for taking the time and listening to old men grumble about distance and as always, to Lloyd Cole for the musical intro.
If you aren't following Zac on Twitter, you can find him here.
The episode's permanent link is here.
The show's iTunes store link here.
Episode 76 on iTunes here.
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Recent tournament winner Eddie Pepperell's latest blog entry rightfully questions whether golf (and his European Tour) should be adapting to a changing (and unhealthy) society by trying to shorten, speed-up and coolify the golf experience.
As always, I urge you to read the entire piece for context and to understand his premise, but I think it's well worth you time. But a sampling:
All of these things I believe have huge potential in dealing with chronic illnesses, whether that be physical or mental. I would imagine golf as a form of healing from depression could be enormous due to what Iâve outlined above. Plus, why change a sport to simply âconformâ to what we believe society âwants.â Conformity is boring, each sport is different in its nature and we should celebrate that, not the opposite.
When it comes to the changes we can make as professional golfers to ensure the viewing experience is better, I do believe like many others that there are things that can be done. We should be making an example of players taking way too long to hit simple shots. We shouldnât be advocating pre shot routines where you close your eyes, breathe slowly and pretend to be a Power Ranger. Golf can be played faster at tournament level, as well as club level. But it can never be played in 2 hours. And I donât want golf to change itself in such a way to make that possible. I think it would ultimately be a bad move for the game and risk dilution, the same way Cricket has done.
Chief Executive Keith Pelley will not be calling on Pepperell to helm any of his cutting edge initiatives anytime soon.
We may currently have an âimage problemâ in golf, but we donât need to add schizophrenia to that. 40 second shot clocks may reduce a round of golf to 4 hours from 4 hours 30 minutes in a 3-Ball, but thatâs still 4 hours, and in my opinion thatâs not enough of a change to direct attention away from our sport being âtoo slow.â
Geoff Shackelford is a Senior Writer for Golfweek magazine, a weekly contributor to Golf Channel's Morning
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